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ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. of it's time romney and ryan say we're going to level the playing field. we're going to give you a fair shot again. >> paul ryan has been saying he wanted a big debate. well, last night he got one and today their whole dishonest campaign is sorry he did. joining me now, dana milbank for "the washington post" and marge. >> nowhere more than when biden nailed him on the gop's attack on the stimulus. watch. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters but go to our website. h
ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actuall
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme...
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ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something like 23 million americans. in fact, mr. ryan's economic plan was deemed to be so callous that when he spoke at georgetown university, 90 members of the faculty sent him a letter saying that his budget was a complete bastardization of catholic social teaching. as father thomas reese said, i am afraid that chairman ryan's budget reflects the values of his favorite philosopher ayn rand rather than the gospel of jesus christ. mr. ryan says his opponents are liars who want to
ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something like 23 million americans. in fact, mr....
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ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription for what it takes to get out of poverty if you live in the inner city. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, help people get out of poverty, help teach people good discipline, good character. >> are all people who are poor only poor because they have not been taught good character? or only poor people in the inner cities who are poor because they don't have good character? they don't have good discipline, they need to be taught that. you watching at home, do you not make a lot of money? was there a time you didn't have a lot of money? is that because you have bad character? if i were the romney/ryan campaign i would probably try to trash that re
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>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under three. >> holy smoke. >> i stand by what i said, whatever it was. >>> we are pumped up, fired up, and jacked up with just hours until tonight's first and only face-off between vice president joseph biden and vice presidential nominee paul ryan. and what was once regarded as a popcorn side show has taken on far greater significance in the wake of the president's less than scintillating performance last week. democrats are anxious, republicans are hungry for a surge, and as ryan and biden take the stage tonight, they have a chance to influence this election at a volatile moment. and the president himself knows he's got to push harder against his ever-shiftin
>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under...
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, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to figure out how he can talk about what he believes and not run afoul of wherever governor romney might be on any of these budgetary issues, and especially medicare. >> it could be very interesting and very important given where we are at this stage, 29 days out. jonathan and margie omera, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> a new group intimidating voters at the poll. into plus, the folks at snl brought humor but there's a serious point to be made. that's ahead. [ female announcer ] you can measure the growth of children by the
, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to...
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/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan -- it's going to be much harder for him to do that. he wrote the ryan plan. >> right. >> he can't run away from the plan that bears his name, the plan that bears his name that would voucherize medicare. so i think the key is for joe biden to take the modern republican party, particularly the modern republican house caucus and hang it around the neck of paul ryan. >> well, ryan wrote the budget, as you said, and ryan is named after -- and he is the one that made some of these votes. kind of hard to run away from it. krystal, when you look at his record, it seems right for pickings. his budget raises taxes on the poor. it makes seniors pay $6400 more for medicare coverage, all while giving millionaires a $265,000
/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan -- it's going to be much harder for him to do that. he wrote the ryan plan. >> right. >> he can't run away from the plan that bears his name, the plan that bears his name that would...
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host: is that different from paul ryan's plan? guest: it is the same as paul ryan's plan. host: now that we have laid this all-out, let's turn to our viewers. vicky is up, a democratic caller. caller: good morning. i recently retired after 45 years of being a registered nurse in a hospital, and the first 10 years in a fee-for- service traditional hospital. the last 35 years, the oldest not-for-profit hmo in the country, kaiser permanente. i guess i am pretty upset about the fact that with all the spin about the affordable care act, nobody is really addressing a lot of the quality initiatives that have been included. it has been kind of perpetrated as basically an insurance program, when only 25% of it deals with insurance issues. the rest of it is really quality initiatives. there are 85 listed, such as national diabetes scorecards, giving providers some incentives and some reimbursements for electronic medical records, centers of excellence for things like congestive heart failure, a clinical depression. so can you address some of those quality initiatives? they are long
host: is that different from paul ryan's plan? guest: it is the same as paul ryan's plan. host: now that we have laid this all-out, let's turn to our viewers. vicky is up, a democratic caller. caller: good morning. i recently retired after 45 years of being a registered nurse in a hospital, and the first 10 years in a fee-for- service traditional hospital. the last 35 years, the oldest not-for-profit hmo in the country, kaiser permanente. i guess i am pretty upset about the fact that with all...
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ryan has to modulate. we'd like to be sharper, smarter, more on guard, but we're not. >> the neocons are the ones who have been prepping on that question. i think he had to strike that broad line there simply because in the senate and in the congress, there are a whole lot of members who are war weary. >> you're a republican. do you think this country is war weary after three wars? >> absolutely. i called for it when i was chairman and got creamed for questioning why we were engaging yet again in afghanistan. >> with an islamic country. >> here we go again. i think paul ryan had to walk that tight rope a little bit. quite frankly, it was difficult. it was obvious it was difficult, particularly on the question of iran and answering specifically with respect to the sanctions of working. are they working? they're having an impact. not being able to acknowledge that says a lot. >> i think he did a very good job on the whole foreign policy section. number one, he's a foreign policy expert. he's a chairman of fo
ryan has to modulate. we'd like to be sharper, smarter, more on guard, but we're not. >> the neocons are the ones who have been prepping on that question. i think he had to strike that broad line there simply because in the senate and in the congress, there are a whole lot of members who are war weary. >> you're a republican. do you think this country is war weary after three wars? >> absolutely. i called for it when i was chairman and got creamed for questioning why we were...
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paul ryan championshiped on capitol hill. it was privatization of social security. >> i remember the bill. >> if joe biden can't ram that down his throat, that people put their social security money in the stock market and lost at least some of it in -- >> something george bush rejected as an idea. i'm afraid we have to end. thank you. >>> next, the war on children, starring the mother of five. stay with us. >> i can't -- mean, like lied about what? this is something he's been saying all along. this is what he believes. this is his policy. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. >> the current rate less 20% so the top rate would go from 35 to 28. >> i can't -- i mean, like lied about what? very sore looking kinda blistery. it was like a red rash... like somebody had set a bag of hot charcoal on my neck. i was a firefighter for 24 years. but, i have never encountered such a burning sensation until i had the shingles. i remember it well. i was in the back yard doing yard work. i had this irritation going on in my lower neck. i c
paul ryan championshiped on capitol hill. it was privatization of social security. >> i remember the bill. >> if joe biden can't ram that down his throat, that people put their social security money in the stock market and lost at least some of it in -- >> something george bush rejected as an idea. i'm afraid we have to end. thank you. >>> next, the war on children, starring the mother of five. stay with us. >> i can't -- mean, like lied about what? this is...
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ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand kids, they love big bird and burt ander ni and so forth, but we borrow money effectively from china to make sure our kids don't have to watch advertising on pbs. my view is it makes sense to stop borrowing many and let our kids get used to corn flakes. >> sesame street was brought today by the letter "g" for grouch. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more [ russian accent ] rubles. eh, eheh, eh, eh. [ brooklyn accent ] 50% more simoleons. [ western accent ] 50% more
ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with...
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paul ryan, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have his facts together. he's been there, sew knows the behind the scenes, so he's really sort of giving us flow by flow what's been going on for the last four years. >> democrat say vice president joe biden needed to avoid any gaffes and paint ryan as the face of the conservative wing of the republican party and who supports severe spending cut, changes to medicare and they lack foreign policy experience. >> i think the president is an excellent president. he is a very decent man. sometimes he's too desefnts joe biden is showing that you have to say what the facts are even if it means calling swownt when they're saying something that's not true. >> i think he's being really authentic and he knows the facts and because he's smiling, i think he's smiling because he knows that ryan is lying. >> paul ryan's lies, he's calling them out one by one. >> we're back live. so democrats here say they're happy with the vice president preachesness. there are two more presidential debates before the voters get the last wor
paul ryan, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have his facts together. he's been there, sew knows the behind the scenes, so he's really sort of giving us flow by flow what's been going on for the last four years. >> democrat say vice president joe biden needed to avoid any gaffes and paint ryan as the face of the conservative wing of the republican party and who supports severe spending cut, changes to medicare and they lack foreign policy experience. >> i think the president is an...
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. >>> is paul ryan starting to feel the heed? just two days before his do-or-die showdown with joe biden. check this out. >> by kiting taxes, with the big tax cut? >> those are yours, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. >> yeah take off that microphone. good luck trying that with joe biden on thursday. >>> plus big bird is still flying high and there are signs now that the great yellow friend is getting under mitt romney's skin. >>> and the inside story of the family intervention inside the romney campaign. it's a real shocker, and it really happened. you're watches "politics nation" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ ryan ] it doesn't get any better than endless shrimp at red lobster. you can mix and match all day! [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobst
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how much pressure faces paul ryan. and this morning, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky finds out if he'll spend the rest of his life in prison on 45 counts of child sex abuse, he already put out a taped statement denying it all. we'll have the latest from the courthouse as soon as it happens. it is happening within minutes there in pennsylvania. >>> good morning from washington, it's four weeks until election day, tuesday, october 10. will romney serve in national polling translate into gains where it really matters t battleground states, the mimpb battleground states of iowa, wisconsin and ohio. romney will not be president unless he can put these states in play. in a new pew poll conducted since wednesday. just last month in the same poll, romney trailed by eight points. driving romney surge, a spike in republican enthusiasm, more republicans made it through pew's likely voter screen than democrats. and a larger group of registered voters, the candidates are tied at 46. while it's unlikely returns on el
how much pressure faces paul ryan. and this morning, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky finds out if he'll spend the rest of his life in prison on 45 counts of child sex abuse, he already put out a taped statement denying it all. we'll have the latest from the courthouse as soon as it happens. it is happening within minutes there in pennsylvania. >>> good morning from washington, it's four weeks until election day, tuesday, october 10. will romney serve in national polling...
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or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that is, you know, part of what the american people need to decide on, whether or not they want a budget that protects tax cuts for those at the top but is cutting education, and veterans and clean energy, innovation, infrastructure, turning medicare into a voucher program. those are the types of choices that the meamerican people have before them and that will be part of the discussion tonight. >> you said earlier today, stephanie, that paul ryan and mitt romney are politicizing the attack in benghazi that killed our ambassador there. the republican national committee re
or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that...
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ryan. let's hear next from betty from houston. turn down your tv volume, please. >> yes, thank you. i thought the debate is very good. yes or a democrat, and i found buys president biden was very clear. he was concise. he was a very factual. i did not feel that credibility with paul ryan. he seemed like he piggybacked on everything vice president biden said it. my mother is older, and i am older. i am very concerned about social security and things of that nature. i do not think there are looking out for the middle class. if they call the middle class $250,000, they are very out of touch. >> back to facebook asking the question about who won the debate. you can post your comments on c- span's face of a page, and we will continue looking at them as we continue our reaction to the debate. next up is john from utah. as a republican, you are on. >> thank you. i think it was nauseating the way mr. joe biden and the last of the way through. does he not take anything serious? he is and that and in
ryan. let's hear next from betty from houston. turn down your tv volume, please. >> yes, thank you. i thought the debate is very good. yes or a democrat, and i found buys president biden was very clear. he was concise. he was a very factual. i did not feel that credibility with paul ryan. he seemed like he piggybacked on everything vice president biden said it. my mother is older, and i am older. i am very concerned about social security and things of that nature. i do not think there are...
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ryan. well, coming up, as we've been saying, these are two extraordinary opponents representing two different generations. biden, 69, ryan, 42. for the first time in history, though, both men are catholic. and they bring two very come peopling stories to the stage. abc's david muir telling us about that. david? >> reporter: great to see you, diane, from kentucky tonight. let me show you how they're framing the debate. this poster is up all over the place. thrill in the ville. these two men will be sparring over very different policies tonight,s be as we discovers today, they actually have quite a bit in common. their political paths both began when they were young. joe biden, 29 when elected to the senate. paul ryan, 28 when he went to congress. both catholic, both celebrate their roots of blue collar america. joe biden grew up in a tight-knit family, played college football and when his grades suffered, his father stepped in. >> you've got to be a college man, joey. and i asked, why is thi
ryan. well, coming up, as we've been saying, these are two extraordinary opponents representing two different generations. biden, 69, ryan, 42. for the first time in history, though, both men are catholic. and they bring two very come peopling stories to the stage. abc's david muir telling us about that. david? >> reporter: great to see you, diane, from kentucky tonight. let me show you how they're framing the debate. this poster is up all over the place. thrill in the ville. these two...
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ryan: 2747 you tarted with one party unifiedgovvrnment.... 2815 biden 2857 ryan asked me for stimulus money... wrote me a leeter oc: sure he did! 2935 2935 the debate took an even more aggressiie turn when the &ptopic ssifteddto ocial security. 23:02:01ic: here's the problem oc: weel don't take all four minutes thee 23:02:46 3 theedebate started witt a question about libya which put the vice president on the ddfensive. why their chhnging story could cost them big in the voting booth, that's coming up in just twenty minutes. the... mitchell... family name... carrres... a... strong tradition... in marylaad--/ and... national-- polittis...///.this... morning, ... patriarch....//ppul gesslee ... reeorts... on... the legacy... clarence mitchell... the third.../ behind. leaves behind..- whethhr you knew him as senator or faaily...del. keiifer mitchell, neppew:"i always knew hhm as unnle clarence."mann riends of clarence mitchell the third fflt thh same thursday morning. del. jill carter, friindd"i punch in the chest."mitchell "it is a loss for the mitchell family, and ii's a loss for beaa,'
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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ryan? ryan: joe and i are from similar town. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? biden: i sure do. ryan: it's 10%. do you know what it was the day you came in? 8.5%. biden: look, that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> moderator: his two-minute answer, please. ryan ryan look -- [laughter] do they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. it's growing at 1.3%. that's slower than it grew last year, and last year was slower than the year before. job growth in september was slower than it was in august, and august was slower than it was this july. we're heading in the wrong direction. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are living in poverty today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt romney and i proposing. it's a five-poin
ryan? ryan: joe and i are from similar town. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? biden: i sure do. ryan: it's 10%. do you know what it was the day you came in? 8.5%. biden: look, that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> moderator: his two-minute answer, please. ryan ryan look -- [laughter] do they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. we're going in the wrong direction. look at...
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bry -- to ryan. host: we noted earlier that there's a 28-year age gap between the two tonight, joe biden versus paul ryan. that's our topic this morning. we were just talking about that moment in 2004. i want to show our viewers that and then come back and get some thoughts from our viewers about tonight's vice presidential debate and pass debates. [video clip] >> mr. vice president/ >> i want to go back to the last comment. the reason they keep trying to attack halliburton is they want to obscure their own recor senate record that's not very distinguished. almost 70% of the meetings with the intelligence committee you have missed. you've missed many key votes on tax policy, medicare reform. if your home town newspaper has taken to calling g you toone. you've got one of the worst attendance records in the u.s. senate. i am the president of the senate and the presiding officer. i am in the senate most times when they are in session. the first time i met you was when you walk on the stage tonight. with
bry -- to ryan. host: we noted earlier that there's a 28-year age gap between the two tonight, joe biden versus paul ryan. that's our topic this morning. we were just talking about that moment in 2004. i want to show our viewers that and then come back and get some thoughts from our viewers about tonight's vice presidential debate and pass debates. [video clip] >> mr. vice president/ >> i want to go back to the last comment. the reason they keep trying to attack halliburton is they...